2023-10-25 Conda Community Meeting

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Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.

Attendees

Name	Initials	Affiliation	GH Username
Rachel Asquith	RAA	Anaconda	rasquith
Cheng H. Lee	CHL	Anaconda/cf	chenghlee
Bas Zalmstra	BZ	Prefix.dev	baszalmstra
Dave Clemnts	DPC	Anaconda	tnabtaf
Ruben Arts	RA	Prefix.dev	ruben-arts
Bianca Henderson	BH	Anaconda	beeankha
Daniel Holth	DH	Anaconda	dholth
Katherine Kinnaman	KK	Anaconda	kathatherine
Jannis Leidel	JL	Anaconda/cf	jezdez
John Kirkham	JK	NVIDIA/cf	jakirkham

12 people in total

Introductions

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Announcements

• (JK) Hiring!
  • https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/NVIDIAExternalCareerSite/job/US-CA-Remote/Senior-Engineer--Infrastructure--Build--and-Packaging---RAPIDS_JR1973615
• (RAA) anaconda.org infrastructure update Anaconda.org will roll out an infrastructure update in the coming weeks. The goal of this release will be to improve performance and make it easier to deploy fixes and updates. This might produce a brief outage.
• (DPC) PackagingCon starts tomorrow.

New Agenda Items

• (JK) license_url updates?
  • https://github.com/conda/infrastructure/discussions/739
• (JK) Download counts for .conda packages
  • https://github.com/ContinuumIO/anaconda-package-data/issues/45
  • https://github.com/ContinuumIO/anaconda-package-data/issues/41
  • [CHL] will follow up with Anaconda stats team.
• (JK) stdlib Jinja
  • https://github.com/conda/conda-build/pull/4999
  • Merged with a "YOLO"! 🎉
  • Will be included in November release (part of standard release cycle)
• (BZ) Python ABI3?
  • Consider building against ABI rather than specific (3.X) Python versions; would reduce the number of packages Anaconda and conda-forge need to build
  • https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1865
  • (JK) Need to consider things like ABI stability
    • Buffer protocol API added in Python 3.11 (so need a newer version of Python to start)
      • https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.11.html#whatsnew311-c-api-new-features
    • Potential changes down the road
      • https://discuss.python.org/t/lets-get-rid-of-the-stable-abi-but-keep-the-limited-api/18458/24
  • (JL) ABI4 😱 is under discussion by Python core (no-gil variant)
  • (DH) Revisit noarch bugs that make Python upgrades awkward / noarch packages might not wind up properly installed in the new Python?
• (JL) conda-libmamba-solver will be default in conda 23.10.0!
  • Hold on to your hats! 🎩
  • Release imminent: https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/13156
  • Last minute bugfix release of conda-libmamba-solver 23.9.3 yesterday: https://github.com/conda/conda-libmamba-solver/releases/tag/23.9.3